{"id":7251,"date":"2025-07-16T16:24:17","date_gmt":"2025-07-16T14:24:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/podpisano-new.local\/?p=7251"},"modified":"2026-08-18T21:41:49","modified_gmt":"2026-08-18T19:41:49","slug":"eidas-dziala-tylko-nie-wszyscy-o-tym-wiedza-historia-pewnego-e-podpisu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/podpisano.pl\/en\/eidas-dziala-tylko-nie-wszyscy-o-tym-wiedza-historia-pewnego-e-podpisu\/","title":{"rendered":"eIDAS works, just not everyone knows it. The story of a certain e-signature."},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"7251\" class=\"elementor elementor-7251\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1efe208d e-con-full e-flex e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"1efe208d\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-44afccd elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"44afccd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Polish qualified signature, Spanish wall <\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d39dd29 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d39dd29\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Our customer stories aren't just stories - they're real-life experiences through which we observe what can really go wrong. We recently received a call from a client who had a qualified electronic signature issued in Poland and encountered a problem using it in another EU country. When trying to sign a document in the Spanish online system, our client was told: <\/span><b>\u201eyou must have a Spanish signature issued by a Spanish operator\u201d.\u201d<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. Sound absurd? And rightly so - because it contradicts EU law.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-eda4e20 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"eda4e20\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">What does the eIDAS law say?\n<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c68d49e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c68d49e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/eur-lex.europa.eu\/legal-content\/PL\/TXT\/PDF\/?uri=CELEX:32014R0910\">eIDAS regulation (No. 910\/2014)<\/a> clearly states:<\/span><\/p><ul><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Qualified signature<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> issued in one EU country is <\/span><b>automatically recognized<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> In all other member states.\u00a0<\/span><\/li><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It has <\/span><b>the same legal force as a handwritten signature<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> - It cannot be denied any form or legal effectiveness.<\/span><\/li><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No country can require a \u201cbetter,\u201d \u201cnational\u201d qualified signature or impose additional requirements above those of the EU.<\/span><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6c8b820 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"6c8b820\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">So why did the Spanish platform reject the Polish signature?\n\n<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-772b5d9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"772b5d9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Possible reasons:<\/span><\/p><ol><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Ignorance <a href=\"https:\/\/podpisano.pl\/en\/eidas-cyfrowe-zaufanie-w-unii-europejskiej-co-to-oznacza-dla-ciebie\/\">eIDAS<\/a><\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> - those operating the system may not have been aware of the law.<\/span><\/li><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Language or technical barrier<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> - Perhaps there was a lack of support for the Polish certificate in a particular system (although this is not allowed), or it was a matter of simple ignorance of the language.<\/span><\/li><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Bad will or attempt to generate additional costs<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> - Suggesting the need to purchase a new signature from a Spanish operator<\/span><p>\u00a0<\/p><\/li><\/ol><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Such action is contrary to the principle of mutual recognition of qualified digital signatures.<\/span><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0beefa7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"0beefa7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">What if another EU country rejects the Polish signature?\n<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3527c7c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3527c7c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5><b>1. cite eIDAS<\/b><\/h5><ul><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/eur-lex.europa.eu\/legal-content\/PL\/TXT\/PDF\/?uri=CELEX:32014R0910\"><b>Regulation (EU) No. 910\/2014, Article 25(3)<\/b><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: \u201ca qualified signature issued in one Member State is recognized throughout the Union\u201d.\u201d<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.certinal.com\/esignature-legality\/spain?utm_source=chatgpt.com\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/a><\/li><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><b>Art. 25(2)<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: equivalence to handwritten signature<\/span><\/li><\/ul><h5><b>2. pay attention to \u201cnon-discrimination\u201d<\/b><\/h5><ul><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The effectiveness of a signature cannot be denied just because it is electronic, or comes from another EU country<\/span><\/li><\/ul><h5><b>3. upload screenshots + eIDAS excerpt<\/b><\/h5><ul><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If the system erroneously signals a lack of support, it is worth sending technical proof - such as a connection to a European <a href=\"https:\/\/eidas.ec.europa.eu\/efda\/home\">Trusted List Browser<\/a>, where it shows Certum\/SimplySign as <a href=\"https:\/\/eidas.ec.europa.eu\/efda\/trust-services\/browse\/eidas\/tls\/tl\/PL\">QTS<\/a> .<\/span><\/li><\/ul><h5><b>4. ask for justification in writing<\/b><\/h5><ul><li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If they refused, ask for a formal response - then you can report the matter to the supervisory authorities (in Poland <a href=\"https:\/\/uodo.gov.pl\/\">UODO<\/a> or Spanish CNIL\/<a href=\"https:\/\/www.incibe.es\/en\">INCIBE<\/a>).<\/span><\/li><\/ul>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0f14d84 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"0f14d84\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Summary - Your rights in a nutshell\n<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4094ebd elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4094ebd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<table><tbody><tr><td><p><b>Issue<\/b><\/p><\/td><td><p><b>Legal status<\/b><\/p><\/td><\/tr><tr><td><p><b>Qualified Polish signature<\/b><\/p><\/td><td><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Automatically recognized in all EU countries<\/span><\/p><\/td><\/tr><tr><td><p><b>Equivalence<\/b><\/p><\/td><td><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Has the force of law as a handwritten signature throughout the EU<\/span><\/p><\/td><\/tr><tr><td><p><b>Refusal to recognize it<\/b><\/p><\/td><td><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Is a violation of eIDAS, can be appealed<\/span><\/p><\/td><\/tr><tr><td><p><b>How to defend yourself?<\/b><\/p><\/td><td><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Invoke Articles 24a and 25 of eIDAS + Trusted List Browser<\/span><\/p><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><p>\u00a0<\/p><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Polish qualified signature CertumMini\/SimplySign works legally and effectively on the territory of the <\/span><b>the entire European Union<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> - 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